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During cold weather (roughly anything below 5c) my 2011 Tiguan TDI will flash the diesel pre-glow light (fourth from the left in the attched image) and give the written error mesage "Check engine" IF the engine is warm and I either put it in reverse or if the engine is warm, put in park and then goes back into drive. The light flashes for a while and then turns off.

It seems as though the light flashes for a shorter period of time if after being put back into drive I really step on the gas pedal, accelerating quickly. This leads me to think it miiight have something to do with the turbo..?
 

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Needs a scan with VCDS. Sounds like a glowplug issue, i doubt turbo related.
 

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Yes get a good scan with VCDS sounds like a glow plug is failing. Being a 2011, how many miles are on it? And if you are over 100k miles, you could have early signs of DPF issues.
 

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Thank you for your answers.

Unfortunately I don't have access to a VCDS scanner, however I've got a OBDeleven scanner.

This is the results from a scan I just did ten minutes ago:

Date: 2020-11-10 10:57

VIN: (removed)
Car: Volkswagen Tiguan R-line
Year: 2011
Body type: SUV
Engine: CFFB 103 kW (140 HP) 2.0 l
Mileage: 190230 KM

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01 Engine

System description: R4 2,0L EDC
Software number: 03L906018FA
Software version: 7426
Hardware number: 03L907309R
Hardware version: H22
Serial number: 00000000000000
ODX name: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018FA
ODX version: 003008
Long coding: 00250012043600080000

Trouble codes:
P256300 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
Intermittent
Date: 2115-12-11 14:04:56
Mileage: 190072 km
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 8
Unlearning counter: 255
Engine speed: 786.50 1/min
Normed load value: 30.2 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 69 °C
Intake air temperature: 6 °C
Ambient air pressure: 940 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.240 V
Dynamic environmental data: 209628117E200011CC1C5C10CDF8BF12033708000E11D02297102A0000

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02 Transmission

System description: DSG DQ500-7A
Software number: 0BH300011D
Software version: 1204
Hardware number: 0BH927711C
Hardware version: H04
ODX name: EV_TCMDQ500021
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 0014

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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03 Brakes

Software number: 5N0614109Q
Software version: 0006
Hardware number: 5N0614109Q
Hardware version: K03
Serial number: 00000003125083
Coding: 0027975

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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04 Steering Angle Sensor

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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08 Air Conditioning

System description: Climatronic
Software number: 5K0907044BT
Software version: 0709
Hardware number: 5K0907044BT
Hardware version: H15
ODX name: EV_Climatronic
ODX version: A01006
Long coding: 0000000002

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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09 Central Electrics

System description: BCM PQ35 H
Software number: 5K0937087H
Software version: 0035
Hardware number: 5K0937087H
Hardware version: 011
Long coding: 48180A3B8825F3C0400800803400092443553088736D85605C8000000040

Subsystems:
System description: WWS316 170801
Software number: 5N1955119B
Software version: 0664
Hardware version: 24
Long coding: 009795

System description: RLS 150916 05
Software number: 1K0955559AH
Software version: 0403
Hardware version: 54
Long coding: 0330AD

System description: DWA-Sensor 00
Software number: 1K8951171
Software version: 0104
Hardware version: 001
Long coding: 000000

System description: LIN BACKUP HO
Software number: 1K0951605C
Software version: 1501
Hardware version: H05
Long coding: 000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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10 Parking Assistance

System description: PARKHILFE 4K
Software number: 5N0919475B
Software version: 0023
Hardware number: 5N0919475
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 11131023104301
Long coding: 310102

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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15 Airbag

Software number: 5N0959655N
Software version: 1916
Hardware number: 5N0959655N *
Hardware version: 003
Serial number: 003GHPH24D3E
Coding: 0012336

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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16 Steering Column

System description: LENKS.MODUL
Software number: 5K0953501AT
Software version: 0136
Hardware number: 5K0953569H
Hardware version: 009
Serial number: 20100831200957
ODX name: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS
ODX version: A03004
Long coding: 198A140000

Subsystems:
System description: E221__MFL-TAS
Software number: 5K0959542
Software version: 0010
Hardware version: H05
Long coding: 820000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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17 Dashboard

System description: KOMBI
Software number: 5N0920872A
Software version: 0406
Hardware number: 5N0920872A
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 00000000000000
ODX name: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09
ODX version: A04089
Long coding: 110F01

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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19 Gateway

Software number: 7N0907530A
Software version: 5603
Hardware number: 1K0907951
Hardware version: 000
Serial number: 290710F2000432
Long coding: FDA37F4650461300006002

Trouble codes:
03272 - External audio source connection No signal/communication
Intermittent
Priority: 2
Frequency counter: 2
Driving cycle: 177
Mileage: 186749 km

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22 All Wheel Control

Software number: 0AY907554D
Software version: 0042
Hardware number: 0AY907554D
Coding: 0000005

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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25 Immobilizer

System description: IMMO
Software number: 5K0953234
Software version: 0406
Hardware number: 5K0953234
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 00000000000000
ODX name: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09
ODX version: A03008
Long coding: 000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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2E Media Player 3

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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37 Navigation

System description: RNS-MID
Software number: 1T0035680C
Software version: 2850
Hardware number: 1T0035680C
Hardware version: H61
Serial number: VWZ6Z7L6312036
Long coding: 040500020100008000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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42 Driver Door

Software number: 5N0959701E
Software version: 2101
Hardware number: 5N0959701E
Coding: 0004286

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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44 Steering Assistance

Software number: 5N1909144L
Software version: 0802
Hardware number: 5N1909148G *
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 00102420098101
Coding: 0000258

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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46 Comfort System

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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47 Sound System

System description: KonzernAmp 8K
Software number: 5K0035456
Software version: 0340
Hardware number: 5K0035456
Hardware version: H06
Serial number: BP218109102768
ODX name: EV_AudioVerst8KanalBNO1
ODX version: A01003

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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4F Central Electrics 2

System description: EZE_2
Software number: 7N0907532
Software version: 5603
Hardware number: 1K0907951
Hardware version: H25
Serial number: 290710F2000432
Long coding: 050B0500

Subsystems:
System description: J245EE20SKB13
Software number: 8R0959591A
Software version: 0220
Hardware version: H02
Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

System description: J394EE20SKB13
Software number: 8R0959591A
Software version: 0220
Hardware version: H02
Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

Trouble codes:
02071 - Local data bus Electrical error in circuit
Intermittent
Priority: 1
Frequency counter: 7
Driving cycle: 202
Mileage: 186936 km

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52 Passenger Door

Software number: 5N0959702E
Software version: 2101
Hardware number: 5N0959702E
Coding: 0004542

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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53 Parking Brake

Software number: 3AA907801D
Software version: 0006
Hardware number: 3AA907801D
Serial number: 00000000070075
Coding: 0023057

Trouble codes:
01316 - Brake control module Please read DTC
Intermittent
Priority: 2
Frequency counter: 4
Driving cycle: 205
Mileage: 187204 km

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55 Headlight Regulation

System description: AFS-Steuergeraet
Software number: 5M0907357C
Software version: 0148
Hardware number: 5M0907357C
Coding: 1361094

Subsystems:
System description: AFS-Lst.-Modul l
Software number: 7L6941329B
Software version: 0004

System description: AFS-Lst.-Modul r
Software number: 7L6941329B
Software version: 0004

Trouble codes:
00497 - Sensor for vehicle leveling, rear Short circuit to ground
Intermittent
Priority: 3
Frequency counter: 254
Driving cycle: 173
Mileage: 185986 km
00497 - Sensor for vehicle leveling, rear Open circuit/short circuit to B+
Intermittent
Priority: 3
Frequency counter: 254
Driving cycle: 173
Mileage: 185986 km
01537 - Vehicle level sensor - supply voltage Implausible signal
Intermittent
Priority: 3
Frequency counter: 8
Driving cycle: 173
Mileage: 187455 km

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56 Radio

System description: RNS-MID
Software number: 1T0035680C
Software version: 2850
Hardware number: 1T0035680C
Hardware version: H61
Serial number: VWZ6Z7L6312036
Long coding: 040500020100008000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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62 Rear Left Door

Software number: 5N0959703D
Software version: 2102
Hardware number: 5N0959703D
Coding: 0000144

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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69 Trailer Control

System description: Anhaenger
Software number: 1K0907383F
Software version: 0100
Hardware number: 1K0907383F
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 00000132527252
Long coding: 410D000100000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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6C Rear View Camera

Software number: 5N0907441A
Software version: 0020
Hardware number: 5N0907441A
Serial number: 525PA8-J074135
Coding: 0030010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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72 Rear Right Door

Software number: 5N0959704D
Software version: 2102
Hardware number: 5N0959704D
Coding: 0000144

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

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77 Telephone

System description: Telefon
Software number: 3C8035730A
Software version: 0078
Hardware number: 3C8035730A
Hardware version: 007
Serial number: 35909603030616
ODX name: EV_UHVPremi
ODX version: A01005
Long coding: 020100000100000000010000

Trouble codes:
B104F11 - Left audio channel for speech/telephone Short circuit to ground
Intermittent
Date: 2115-12-08 10:05:33
Mileage: 189699 km
Priority: 4
Malfunction frequency counter: 1
Unlearning counter: 206
B104E11 - Right audio channel for speech/telephone Short circuit to ground
Intermittent
Date: 2115-12-08 10:05:33
Mileage: 189699 km
Priority: 4
Malfunction frequency counter: 1
Unlearning counter: 206
U140000 - Function restriction due to insufficient voltage
Intermittent
Date: 2111-12-12 12:17:26
Mileage: 186895 km
Priority: 6
Malfunction frequency counter: 9
Unlearning counter: 173

The 01 Engine - P256300 trouble code is the only one that looks like it would have anything to do with the issue:

P256300 - Turbocharger Boost Control Position Sensor Circuit Range/Performance
Intermittent
Date: 2115-12-11 14:04:56
Mileage: 190072 km
Priority: 2
Malfunction frequency counter: 8
Unlearning counter: 255
Engine speed: 786.50 1/min
Normed load value: 30.2 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 69 °C
Intake air temperature: 6 °C
Ambient air pressure: 940 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.240 V
Dynamic environmental data: 209628117E200011CC1C5C10CDF8BF12033708000E11D02297102A0000

I don't know why the Date is all wrong, but the time of day is exactly right from when I last got the error on my dash (on sunday).

It also shows the intake air temperature was 6c (I said roughly around 5c) and Vehicle speed 0km/h (I got it as I just put the car in drive).

Does this makes any more sense for any of you?
 

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Dates are never right on these oddly. Just go by Mileage. I'd first start by clearing all the codes and get your battery checked. The one low voltage code is an early sign your battery may be a. It weak when it's cold out. CanBus needs voltage over 12.3v or it can do screwy things. As far as the boost control sensor bring a 2011 you might have the older version of the Boost Control/ Diverter Valve with a diaprhram over a piston, and when it's cold it's sticking a bit. But start with a code clear and get your battery load tested, if the battery is more than a few years old if consider replacement. I assume that other codes are due to not having a factory radio installed. Those codes will never get cleared unless you go into installed options and uncheck factory stereo and speakers, telephone etc.
 
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Thank you for your feedback!
I cleared all the codes and took a reading of the battery. It seems to be in good shape at 12.76 volts.

- Could the low voltage code be due to a fuse, or something along those lines?

The sticking diaphram might sound like a candidate for the error.

Would there be any way to check if that might be it? I don't have immense knowledge of engines, but I'm a handy little bastard, so I reckon I'll be capable if it's not too involved.
 

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Just a thought - when batteries are on the way out, they can still give good no-load and charging voltages, and that was in the 'old' lead acid days. God knows the story with glass matt. Living in an ultra cold climate, you would need a battery in top condition with a diesel - if you have start/stop even more so. All garages should have a load tester to check it out.

Like your photo BTW.
 
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You should be seeing closer to 14. Any dip below 12.5 and funny things start happening.
 

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Surely, Iggy 14V would be the engine-on charge voltage? If ttowntom tested the battery with the engine and everything else off, 12.76 is normally not a bad voltage but a high load test would say whether the battery was stuffed?
 

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Yep, always rely on the loaded test. If you have an extra hand you can hold the probes to the battery as one turns on the engine. Should it dip below the threshold it can trigger things to shut off to conserve potential starting amps. My H6 TDI spec AGM I put in last year holds about 13.2 to 13.5 sitting. And I see 14.3 usually charging and 13.8 when the alt coasts (we don't get the fancy extra shutoff system everyone belse gets) after running this big battery in my prior VW when my Tigs battery cranked hard one morning I didn't hesitate to stuff the H6 in tbe Tiguan as well with the gas motor. The extra size and capacity and amperage makes for a sizable difference. Heck even the radio sounded better. Anytime I see posts now on older tigs and I see a few tell tale one being low voltage a few miles back but starting issues I always start with the battery and then move to the engine to chassis ground. I've had issues with grounds causing hard start issues as well they are notorious to corrode inside and increase resistance.

Back to the OP many garages and parts houses have a battery load tester they will check your battery for free. Ask them to do a 125% load test on it.
 
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