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#1 OFFLINE   masster

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Posted 05 February 2020 - 07:33 PM

Hello everybody

My Tiguan has not an anti-theft system. I would like to add an original VW anti-theft system with all the bells and whistles (doors/bonnet/tailgate sensors, volumetric sensors, windows brake sensor, towing/jack up sensor, shock sensor).

Could you point me to a well written DIY guide please?

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#2 OFFLINE   masster

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 01:07 PM

Nobody proficient enough for electronics jobs?

I have electronics knowledge but I do not know the specifics for Tiguan.


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 01:36 PM

Nobody proficient enough for electronics jobs?

I have electronics knowledge but I do not know the specifics for Tiguan.

That comes across as quite rude!  Just that nobody's done this, or written it up.


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 02:16 PM

That comes across as quite rude!  Just that nobody's done this, or written it up.

I agree with you Richard. We have a very knowledgeable membership base, but no need to be rude if something goes unanswered.


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 06:18 PM

I've done the horn to siren alarm swap, it wasn't easy but it involves a ton of work and coding. As far as adding all the sensors for motion, etc it's quite the undertaking but I do believe the Russian modding site has done it. Pretty much have to gut most of the interior, there is a button to deactivate the motion that goes on the B Pillar near the driver's seatbelt. The overhead panel with all the sensors, tilt etc. Incan honestly say in over 12 years of modding VWs I've never seen someone do this mostly due to the expense. Honestly be cheaper to install an aftermarket Viper alarm with all the sensors.

You may have to change out the BCM, do the siren swap with battery backup, change out the overhead panel to an EU overhead that has a the sensors, and microphone wire in the switch in the B pillar, run all the wires to the BCM under the dash, code everything with ODIS, I don't think VCDS can. You might also have to change your door latches to the EU "dead locking" style. Like I said I'm sure the Russian site Drive(dot)RU has a thread.
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Posted 11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM

That comes across as quite rude!  Just that nobody's done this, or written it up.

I don't see anything rude. Being new here, I have no idea what is the knowledge level of the forum. So I've asked after 6 days of waiting. Jeez...


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 08:56 PM

I’m sure if anybody had known the answer they would have said so. Expecting a forum to know everything about everything is a bit ott and then being rude when you don’t get the answer you seek will simply isolate you from the members here who I suspect probably have the most comprehensive Tiguan knowledge worldwide of any forum. Your exasperated “Jeez” does no more than confirm your lack of online manners.
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Posted 11 February 2020 - 09:44 PM

I’m sure if anybody had known the answer they would have said so.

Well then, there goes the drain "We have a very knowledgeable membership base" if 6 days were not enough to put a tiny link. All that BEFORE asking about proficiency level. Which in itself is not a crime. Not having enough knowledge and admit it is not a crime too. I just wanted to know if on this forum I can get 10% guidance and the rest do it myself. What is wrong with you?


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Posted 11 February 2020 - 10:14 PM

You are whisper away masster from being banned. Maybe you should try another forum. Like yourself we cannot know everything.

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:37 PM

Lets see...

 

Could you point me to a well written DIY guide please?

fair enough, someone may have done this job before, and there could be a guide out there

 

Nobody proficient enough for electronics jobs?

Not a question of proficiency or otherwise, clearly no one's done it

 

 I've asked after 6 days of waiting. Jeez

You've asked a pretty specialised question, not everyone signs on every day or even every week

 

 if 6 days were not enough to put a tiny link.

well if there were a tiny link, maybe somebody might have, but as it clearly doesn't exist then no, 6 years wouldn't be Long enough 

 

All that BEFORE asking about proficiency level.

Asking is one thing, "Nobody proficient enough for electronics jobs?" Is a slight, it's diminishing everybody's proficiency by saying we are not Good enough.

 

So, Iggy has pointed you off to the Russian modding site suggesting they may have done it, and mentioned how complex he believes it would be. That's helpful, that's pointing you to somewhere you may find information. 


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:52 AM

So, Iggy has pointed you off to the Russian modding site suggesting they may have done it, and mentioned how complex he believes it would be. That's helpful, that's pointing you to somewhere you may find information. 

Yeah, he was not a snowflake and I appreciated it. Although the solution is outside this forum (!), I can live with it.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 12:56 AM

Honestly be cheaper to install an aftermarket Viper alarm with all the sensors.

In that case, will it be anything to interfere with existing computers and need adaptations?


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:07 AM

It won't be integraded anyway into the system other than tap ins to flash lights etc. If you opt for remote start, you will have to sacrifice a key, so of someone could bypass the alarm the vehicle could be started by hotwire since the immobilizer is technically bypassed having a key hidden under the dash.

Not saying the factory way isn't the way to go, but be prepared to spend $1000 to get everything, and still probably have to make your own harnesses, crimp and solder pins etc.

Vs a fully installed Viper Alarm is probably $3-400 installed. I ran a Viper to gain power door locks, and trunk pop, plus the alarm, on my 08 Corolla i had, bought the car new in 07. Toyota didn't give keyless to base models. So I spent $300 at the time to have it installed. Worked great and it had a dual layer. Since the alarm locked the doors, it armed itself and Toyotas built in alarm, and immobilizer. It got broken into once but the alarm scared off the bugluar.

But I'm sure if you dug on the Russian modder forums I'm sure someone there has done it. And are usually well written, just have to be on a device that translates the page to English.
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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:24 PM

The owner's manual states:

Your vehicle is either equipped with an anti-theft alarm system or pre-equipped for anti-theft alarm system installation. If the vehicle is pre-equipped for installation of the anti-theft alarm system, the alarm system can be retrofitted by an authorized Volkswagen dealer or an authorized Volkswagen Service Facility.

Any idea what pre-equipped means? I have all workshop manuals, wiring diagrams included. I would start by retrofitting the VW factory anti-theft alarm system then adding extra sensors.

The factory alarm sounds if the following events occur with respect to the locked vehicle:

  • Opening a door that has been mechanically unlocked.
  • Forcibly opening a door.
  • Forcibly opening the engine hood.
  • Forcibly opening the rear hatch.
  • Switching on the ignition with an invalid key.
  • Disconnecting the vehicle battery.
  • Disconnecting an anti-theft system integrated trailer.

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 02:12 PM

As I've mentioned in another post just now, all the features and options are already in the modules installed in the cars, so a lot of it is already integrated. The car already detects doors and tailgate open, it warns on the dashboard. It knows when the car is locked or deadlocked. The trailer module if fitted already detects the presence of a trailer plugged in. It knows when a key with an incorrect transponder is used.

 

What it requires is the extras, e.g. the door pillar button for the tilt disable, the ultrasonic sensors, I don't know if the alarm module is actually a separate module, I'm guessing it probably is and has it's own battery, and of course additional sirens. Plus all the additional wiring and coding for all of this. If the manual says it's a dealer installable add on you could talk to a dealer and try to get the information out of them. 


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